Never Trust anyone who ever worked at microsoft :)

Have to admit, Mr Dave Plumber … fooled me!

should have judged him from his past employment

best outcome … young autistic guy get used by the “gates et al” of this world to be the fall guy, hey as if that never happens in the IT industry :slight_smile:

“Gary Kildall… I expected too much of educators. I expected them to understand, in a sense, the sugar-coated concepts of LISP used in AI that were embodied in the Logo language. It was then that I learned that computers were built to make money, not minds”

Dave payed the price in court, and accepted wrongdoing. I am in no way condoning his past behavior, I think the real question is do we cast away someone form society permanently because of a wrongdoing in their past? That answer really comes down to how they feel about the thing they did today and I am not sure we know that.

Nobody’s perfect and outside of him promoting his book I have noticed him selling anything anymore, he just shares his insights on technology which I do see as a public good.

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100% agree his videos have been really informative

Whether hes paid the price or not… that we’ll never know unless he makes his personal accounts available before during and after the years of the trial (lot of clever lawyers out there)

And that aint ever gonna happen baby :slight_smile:

He’s def done really well for himself, all credit to him if its purely from the back of his past/future/present non criminal activities!

Well, to be fair, his company wasn’t actually distributing malware, they were distributing working software, but were using some unethical and apparently not entirely legal methods to convince people into buying it, which, to be clear, I do not condone.

However, isn’t this basically the same thing that much larger and more systemically important companies like banks, insurance companies, food companies, etc. have always done, including worse things like knowingly selling products that are actually harmful to people and for which they have been sued countless times, and yet we continue to buy services and products from these very companies? :wink:

So I’d say cut the man some slack, unless you have evidence that he’s still making money in unethical or unlawful ways today :slight_smile: